So, There’s This Boy Part III

(Parts I and II)

During Part I of the series a few people mentioned that Jorge may be a follower of The Mystery Method or something called The Seduction Community. Once this was mentioned and I googled a bit to get some more information it became increasingly clear to me that Jorge is a real life Pick-Up Artist.

Naturally, I was intrigued by this turn of events. How could anyone follow the teachings of a man who looks like this?



The basics of this community are to open, get the woman comfortable and then sleep with her. Ideally, the Pick-Up Artist (PUA) should be able to sleep with a woman within seven hours of meeting her even if those seven hours are spread over several days.

Opening (from Wikipedia):

“Initiating a conversation is called "opening," … Openers can be "canned" (prepared in advance), or improvised. Members of the seduction community often practice approaching and opening repetitively…”

For example, the line Jorge pulled out about Dr. Phil? Canned opener. Using open-ended questions where the other person really genuinely feels that you care about their response will almost always work.

Basic marketing and sales. Next.

Interacting (also from Wikipedia):

“The moment where a woman (or group) decides that they want to continue the interaction with the pickup artist is called the "hook point"”

Techniques include:
“ "Negs," i.e. remarks, such as backhanded compliments, that are designed to actively demonstrate disinterest and "falsely disqualify" the pickup artists as potential suitors. Negs are generally advocated for attractive and very attractive women. They are intended for numerous purposes, including slightly lowering a girl’s self-esteem so she’s more vulnerable to pickup, displaying higher value, or for lowering a girl’s "bitch shield" “

In other words, say something to make her feel just bad enough about herself that begins to consider sleeping with you.

And that’s the part I’ve been struggling with.

Sure, you can convince a (drunk?) girl to go home and writhe around in the sheets with you but do you really think that once she finds out you subtly and effectively used basic psychology and marketing to bed her that she’ll still want to be with you? Do you think the kind of women who fall for this are the kind you really want to be with?

And that’s the rub, isn’t it. Does he really care? And if he doesn’t, well, what does that say about him?

Last Friday Jorge, Joseby (Hose-Bee) (Jorge’s friend) and myself went to a bar in Hollywood called Happy Ending where I got to see him interact with a number of women while playing off Joseby. Being that I was this time armed with a mountain of evidence, I decided to say something about it on the ride home. I think he was truly surprised that I figured it all out (thanks to my readers, mostly) but he said when I asked him about the quality of women he is picking up with this method:

“I don’t care. As long as it results in a phone number or pussy, I’m happy”.

And that was the moment when any romantic feelings I had about him went up in flames.

Now, Joseby is a different story but I'll save that one for another day.